Louisiana Long Term Care Medicaid

Use "Return of Transferred Resources" Rules To Qualify for Louisiana Long Term Care Medicaid

This post will help people who have a family member or loved one in a nursing home (or their loved one is about to enter a nursing home) and the family member or loved one has more than $70,000 of countable resources.

Most people think that if you enter a nursing home owning more than $2,000 of assets (other than your home and car), then you will be forced to spend all of those assets on your care until you deplete them down to less than $2,000. Nursing homes are expensive so the money gets depleted rapidly, preventing seniors from being able to leave an inheritance to their children or other loved ones.

But there is a particular legal strategy that can enable you to protect at least half of your countable resources, even if you don't take advantage of the strategy until you (or your loved one) are already in the nursing home as a private pay patient.

Let's use an example to describe how the Return of Transferred Resources provisions of the Louisiana Medicaid Eligibility Manual ("Medicaid Manual") can help one family save $100,000. Let's say Mom (who is not married) is entering the nursing home with a bank account balance of $200,000.

Now we must look at a couple of provisions of the Medicaid Manual. The first provision says, "Do not continue to count the uncompensated value of a transferred resource if the original resource is returned."

Another important provision states, "If only a part of the asset or its equivalent is returned, the penalty period is modified, but not eliminated."

In our example, let's say Mom donated $200,000 to Daughter just prior to Mom entering the nursing home. Mom then applies for Medicaid and gets denied due to the transfer of countable resources. Medicaid will assess a penalty period equal to 40 months ($200,000 transferred divided by $5,000 LA monthly private pay rate). The penalty period begins the month Mom is determined eligible for Medicaid except for the transfer of resources.

Next, Daughter returns to Mom $100,000 of the original $200,000 transferred. As a result, Medicaid will modify the penalty period from 40 months to 20 months. Now, Mom has $100,000 in Mom's account. Daughter has $100,000 in Daughter's account. And Mom's modified 20 month penalty period is underway. Mom uses the $100,000 in Mom's account to pay for her care during the 20 month penalty period.

At the end of the 20 month penalty period, Mom has less than $2,000 of countable resources, the penalty period expires, Medicaid starts covering Mom's nursing home expenses, and Daughter still has $100,000 in Daughter's account.

A few things to keep in mind. We are basing this on the Louisiana Medicaid Eligibility rules. If you live in another state, find out what your state's rules are on the return of transferred resources. Second, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME. Complications result through the Medicaid Application process, the many transactions that take place, and the providing of appropriate financial institution documentation to Medicaid and other third parties. Get good help. One false move and you could do more harm than good.

Also, the family members that play a role in this must be 100% cooperative and supportive. It does not good if they turn around and spend all of the money on themselves.

So, what should you do? Call our office and say you'd like to find out of t he "Transfer and Return" strategy can help your family protect assets. We'll look at your situation and determine whether this would be worthwhile to take advantage of.

This post is for informational purposes only and does not provide legal advice. Please do not act or refrain from acting based on anything you read on this site. Using this site or communicating with Rabalais Estate Planning, LLC, through this site does not form an attorney/client relationship.

Paul Rabalais

Louisiana Estate Planning Attorney

www.RabalaisEstatePlanning.com

Phone: (225) 329-2450

What Should Louisiana Residents Do With Their Series EE or Series I Savings Bonds When Planning Their Estate?

I was working with a couple yesterday in our Baton Rouge office. Their neighbor had used our services and were satisfied, so they wanted to get the same peace of mind knowing that all of their legal affairs were in order. They discussed with me what they owned: home, IRAs, bank accounts, vehicles...the usual stuff.

I asked them if they were worried about the prospect of losing everything if they had a nursing home situation. She shook her head up and down and stated that it was one of her biggest concerns. They had an estate the size of which they needed to protect because it was more than what they are allowed to have and qualify for Louisiana Long Term Care Medicaid, but it was not so much that if they spent just a few short years in a nursing home, it would all get eaten up by nursing home costs.

So we started a discussion about how simple it would be to protect the value of their home from Medicaid's Estate Recovery lien, which if the home was not protected, would allow Medicaid to force a sale of the home after they both died to reimburse Medicaid for what it had spent on their nursing home expenses. We also discussed how easy it would be to protect their bank savings, particularly because they were starting the planning process while they were still healthy.

The wife went on to tell me that she had purchased a long term care insurance policy years earlier, but the insurance company would not permit the husband to buy a policy because of some health concerns.

We kept talking about some of the issues involved in protecting their IRAs from nursing home expenses. We discussed the Community Spouse Resource Allowance which allows married couples to protect more than $100,000 of the IRA and other assets if only one spouse enters a nursing home while the other stays at home.

We all felt that we had come up with a good strategy to protect what they had worked for from nursing home expenses, and also from probate, and as I was summarizing all of the details of their program, she said, "Oh, I almost forgot...I have all of these Savings Bonds. What do I do with these?"

She pulled an envelope out from which came a two-inch thick stack of United States Savings Bonds. I shuffled through them and discovered that some were in the wife's name only, some were in the husband's name only. Some were titled, "Wife OR Husband." And some were titled, "Wife OR Child."

She said, "What can we do to protect these Savings Bonds?"

I told her, "It's simple." Once your trust is signed - next time you come back to the office - you will be able to re-title all of your Savings Bonds into your trust by going to a special website. Transferring your savings bonds to your trust will prevent you from being forced to sell them and spend them if you go into a nursing home, AND, your son that you designated to handle your family's affairs when you and your husband die (the son's title is called the "Successor Trustee") will not have to fight with lawyers and the court system to get those bonds sold or transferred to your children equally when you die.

We pointed out to her that she will need to complete a Request to Reissue United States Savings Bonds to a Personal Trust, and that form is available online at http://www.treasurydirect.gov/forms/sav1851.pdf.

We told her that any questions regarding proper completion of this form could be directed to the Treasury at 1-800-245-2804.

We discussed how when the government re-issues a Series EE or Series I savings bond, it no longer issues a paper bond, and that the reissued bond is in electronic form - this actually makes things simple - don't have to deal with all that paper anymore.

We discussed how since she was transferring the bonds to their "Grantor Trust," the tax on the deferred interest would not have to be paid. The interest from the bonds would continue to accumulate tax deferred until the bonds were disposed of or they finally matured.

While some Louisiana residents have complex assets that are difficult to deal with when it comes to probate, Medicaid, usufruct, donations, gifting, Successions, taxes,  or re-titling, the government has actually done a pretty good job making it easy to re-issue United States Savings Bonds to a trust, allowing your clients to avoid all of the itemization of the bonds when they go through probate, and, if desired, allowing your clients to avoid being forced to sell and consume bonds if there is a nursing home situation.

If you own United States savings bonds and you want to simplify what your family will have to go through one day to get those bonds and other estate assets settled, whether it's when you die, when you become incapable, or perhaps even when you enter a nursing home, then give us a call at Rabalais Estate Planning, LLC, and we'll discuss, perhaps, a program to simplify all of this and leave your family a legacy instead of a headache.